If you don't like people renting space then form an Alliance, kick out the people who own the space and don't rent it out.

Little crybaby! Don't like it? Then like everybody else has already told you, just do something about it! Take their Sov from them. And you already know how to do it. You stated it yourself. Just get yourself a bunch of friends and of course plenty of SuperCaps. Cuz let's face it, in today's EvE, you can't really take large amounts of space without SCs. So just go build yourself a bunch. 'Course to do that you'll need Sov. So just go take some Sov and build your SCs so you can... take some Sov..... erm. Right. There seems to be a problem here..... hmmmm.

But whatev. Fact is, it's YOUR fault. You're just a whiny pubbie scrublord shiitestain yadda yadda yadda (insert more generic insults).

There are some really nice npc null regions out there so the question is why does it even matter how much space the big coalitions have if all you are after is to have fun in nullsec without the need to join the blob ?

I never understood the problem of null sov being controlled by major powerblocks as long as there still are different ones to challange each other from time to time . Every game is a numbers game and eve is no different in that , but you do have the option to play in nullsec without the need to join in on the big blobs.


To be honest i enjoyed my stay in syndicate mostly solo or small gangs last time just as much as i enjoyed my stay in fcon space a few months ago joining in on the biggest sov battle ever.

Two totally different sides of nullplay but still both are quite enjoyable .


In eve you are never forced to do anything unlike what people like to claim often , it's a free world and each thing can be enjoyed both smallscale as largescale .

How can you expect me to give a proper reply to it when you sign off with something wich clearly shows how much biased you are in regards to sov nullsec alliances ?

Your saying it is not being fought over , when we just had the Halloween war and in that one of the largest battles in eve ever with massive losses in it .Explain that to me ....

Wow, so many people who have missed the point.

The issue with Null sec has very little to do with large coalitions but the fact that there are many systems which are simply not worth fighting for.

Example, go to scalding pass on dotlan and you will see that RA owns sov. They do not live there any more but the space is that bad that nobody can be bothered to grind the systems.

You can see this in many other constellations.

When the space is that bad why fight for it? Why spend 10's even 100's of billions of isk fighting for something where you will never recover that isk back.

Whilst the move to by CCP to reduce the ATM of Eve (moongoo) was welcome it also removed a conflict driver and they didn't replace it.

So now for alliances to continue with SRP and paying the bills renting is the best option. Now you will say that they should be targeting each other renters, why should they?

Much like real life politics they make agreements to allow them to continue to fight, members to have fun all without stopping each side create isk.

You don't like this then complain to CCP as they created the walls to the sandbox, not the players

No, the way to win Sov is to ensure that 37,000 character alliances have pressing reasons to NOT turn up to contest your timers.

ie

guns.
politics.
spies.
opportunism.

etc.

You make it sound like it's a bad thing.

they're free to do something about it.

What is stopping them from doing something about it?

yeah, you've still yet to demonstrate a single reason why people can't do something about it.

linking a map with some colours on it, and a player count hasn't provided any reason what so ever.

you've not made a point, there's nothing to understand yet.

a map, and a player count, do not articulate which mechanic prevents players from doing something about it.

http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/Brave_Collective

Steps to null.

(1) attractive recruiting schtick.
(2) promotion of org by being involved in events (even if its just kicking giants in the kneecaps).
(3) objectives to do *right* now to suit the size of the org (this is in fact something I'm awesome at, I can come up with many great campaigns - much of which can be started in highsec).
(4) some sort of logistics backbone to the organization that can move it to location when required, and not instantly fold under pressure.
(5) a culture of understanding that this is game about spaceships with guns, and a game about the efforts of lots of people.
(6) never allow the org to stagnate.
(7) accept that a null campaign might not stick the first time.

I'd add (8) don't tie the dead TEST albatross around your neck, but even that hasn't sunk brave just yet.

when the evil trolls make up less than half of the population of the forest, why does dave keep trying to build his house where the trolls live? or why didn't dave just build his house outside of the enchanted forrest?

you know, i could go on about all the other stuff dave could do but it's a long list and i haven't got time for that.

anyway can we get back to the point? which game mechanic stops players doing something about it?

Assuming it's remotely possible, I'm pretty sure people unhappy with a system that forces two sides at best aren't interested in going through the effort of replacing Goons just to have exactly the same system in place with someone else in charge.

If you recalled the Goons started out detesting BoB, and what they stood for. Funny how quickly things change.

Your lack of knowledge about how sov mechanics work (and used to work) is breathtaking considering how often you post about them.

but the forest is full of trolls!

it is just one phase on evolving sandbox.

What comes next? is the question.

As opposed to infiltrating the the corp which owns those structures, taking control and leaving the alliance or maybe bribing somebody who is that corp to leave and switch sides?

Yes there is only one way to take sov..

Once again you show how little you know of Sov Mechanics and how little imagination you have.

If CCP overhauled the SOV, one of the reasons to rework it is to intentionally kill renting.

the mobile depot alone was better for the solo player intent on farming the whole universe than anything since wormholes, t3s and "new" probing system that came with them (ie eves best expansion).

reduction of the value of moongoo (per tower) has lead to a significant increase in the accessibility of nullsec for carebears as it is now more desirable to work buffer lands than it is to keep it as empty buffer.

highsec now has a valid reason for formation of larger highsec entities (control of pocos).

ship balancing has made many more hulls viable.


ie I'd say the devs are running out of tuning opportunities, ie this isn't a strategy that can sustain EVE forever, but it was a very necessary phase.

I seriously wouldn't bother replying to anything Infinity Ziona says, she is just butt hurt because CCP haven't released a frig with a 10/10/10 slot layout, has the EHP of a Titan, can do a billion DPS, has a gizzilon % bonus to every weapon / EWAR / scanning / hacking mod, a billion m3 cargo hold, can fire whilst cloaked, can jump 1000 ly using only 1 isotope and has a sig radius of 1 so she can solo everything in Eve.

What about your mythical ISBox'ed stealth bomber fleet?

Or wait, is this another one of those "marauders are not battleships" things?